http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/ Refresh Louisville Community Forums en Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:03:17 +0000 http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/topic.php?id=87#post-381 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:49:17 +0000 Todd Budnikas 381@http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/ <p>This is just another great step in the right direction. With the majority of Salesforce users likely on Windows machines and many of them relying on Salesforce to run their business this will likely create a big push. I don't know that it will be earth shattering, but I like seeing a business moving this way that will likely have a huge impact on others, not just a gentle nudge.</p> <p><a href="http://is.gd/86I8p" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/86I8p</a> </p> http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/topic.php?id=73#post-328 Tue, 19 May 2009 17:59:57 +0000 Todd Budnikas 328@http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/ <p>plagued as always by this, but found this post today:<br /> <a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/312022/use-double-classes-in-ie6-css" rel="nofollow">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/312022/use-double-classes-in-ie6-css</a></p> <p>seems like a couple of potential solutions in there, or at least workarounds. Also, nobody seems to refute much of this in the comments, so I'm a little unclear. Outside of my own trial and error, anybody have any ideas or input on this? </p> http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/topic.php?id=14&page=2#post-65 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:39:52 +0000 Bryan V. 65@http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/ <p>@jables: Let me think more about it. I'm pretty sold on my dislike of IE6, but that doesn't mean I can't reconsider how it affects my daily life and practices, if at all. I think your question is a pretty fair one either way. </p> http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/topic.php?id=14&page=2#post-64 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:59:36 +0000 Todd Budnikas 64@http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/ <p>@Bryan, agree totally on your last point. Right now, although it's never happened, we consider &lt;IE6 to be additional development costs. At some point, IE6 will be in that list with IE5.2 and Safari 1. on Mac OS. But at what point do you lose potential partnership if your clients can't help the fact that <strong>their</strong> clients are stuck in corporate america using inferior computers incapable of upgrading? We are working for a non-profit organization for non-profits right now. Is it fair to lose them as a client or potentially cost them more because their end users haven't made a switch?</p> <p>Love the conversation everyone, thanks for chiming in! </p> http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/topic.php?id=14&page=2#post-62 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:39:55 +0000 Bryan V. 62@http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/ <p>Funny that the blog post in question popped up today.</p> <p>"And we have it within our power to do something about it, more so than internet laypeople. If not us, who? When?"</p> <p>That's the question I posed in the original post right at the end that ultimately, I think I was more interested in. IE6 as a specific issue is of course a big thing to think about (and I definitely liked Cederholm's post btw*). But our power/responsibility as designers is a very intriguing concept all to it's own. But to answer your (most likely rehtorical) questions, I say "Yes, us. When? Now." </p> <p>*Some of the comments pointed out basically what I will be doing on the side as well as w/ work starting in March - Specifying that IE6 will add to development costs, and we will be more than happy to work with it, but only when specifically requested and decided upon by the client. </p> http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/topic.php?id=14&page=2#post-61 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:06:44 +0000 Ricky Irvine 61@http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/ <p>@jables Yeah, I learned about Dean Edward's IE7 script from Eric Meyer @ AEA Chicago 2007 (remember that one?). I've been using it where necessary ever since. Since it moved to Google Code I've been linking directly to it. If I remember right, I think the documentation suggests it. And why not? Less on our server, and Google's servers are pretty well maintained I'd say.</p> <p>I stopped by here to see if anyone had seen <a href="http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2009/02/13/iegone.html">Cederholm's post from today</a>, as Todd mentioned. I think I'm going to do it on the SVA site. My site. Any site I can. </p> <p>I can sympathize with the Any Browser campaigns to an extent — accessibility issues suggest such support (however indirectly) — but good grief! It's got to fade somehow, someday. And we have it within our power to do something about it, more so than internet laypeople. If not us, who? When? </p> http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/topic.php?id=14#post-60 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:51:05 +0000 Todd Budnikas 60@http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/ <p>so Dan Cederholm posted this today, and I'm about 95% convinced to do this for Refresh. <a href="http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2009/02/13/iegone.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2009/02/13/iegone.html</a> </p> http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/topic.php?id=14#post-48 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:39:07 +0000 Todd Budnikas 48@http://www.refreshlouisville.org/forums/ <p>@dressedinvalue, so you're using Dean Edward's ie7? I think since it's moved to over to Google it has undergone some updates in version. We implemented a while back on some site and the loading was painful. This was probably over a year ago. How is it running for you? Also, nice to see you're serving it right up from Google Code. I love that they've allowed that for hosted scripts. </p>